Backstage (Belgian pop/rock/alternative magazine),
April 1988
The Jagger Reports by Chris Jagger
Most
critics only seem to be interested in old blues artists, has-beens and disappeared
rock & roll legends. So it's about time "for something completely
different" in our legendary series : an interview with Depeche Mode!
These keyboard wizards are undoubtedly the black sheep of the rock press
and the major labels. David Gahan, Martin Gore, Alan Wilder and Andrew Fletcher
know however to "stumm" them with their most recent European tour
which was completely sold out. At first I only attended one of their gigs
to be able to tell everyone I was there too... It turned out however to
an interview with Alan Wilder, who I knew from 4 years ago, before he was
a member of Depeche Mode. Backstage: I can see you have a Steinway Grand
Piano in your living room here. Are you maybe planning to tour solo in the
near future ?
Alan Wilder: No not really. I just started to study some of our old compositions
again. Really interesting, but damn hard work. I started piano lessons when
I was 8. That education gave me a good background in my career in the popbiz.
So not with standing all modern hitech synth stuff I still enjoy playing
a good piano a lot. Backstage: Do you compose also ? Alan Wilder: Sure!
I absolutely love Mahler and composers like Philip Glass, who move along
between popular and classic music. Backstage: And the older electronic "Music
Concrete" ? Edgar Varese for instance ? Alan Wilder: To be honest before
I joined Depeche Mode, I didn't
know the first thing about electronic music. It was Daniel Miller, the boss
of our label, Mute Records, who showed me around the electronic scene and
let me hear bands like Kraftwerk for the first time. Daniel is for that
matter also a great keyboard player. Backstage: What was your first synth
? Alan Wilder: A mini-Moog, a better instrument than most of the recent
stuff. We
still use it for certain bass parts... Backstage: How did you end then up
with Depeche Mode ? Alan Wilder: I answered an ad they placed in Melody
Maker. Backstage: Typical, you had to audition of course ? Alan Wilder:
Yes, the band was in a kinda strange period at that time. They were young
and successful, were hardly one year together and had already scored a few
big hits. Vince Clark, their song writer left the band and the rock press
started shouting "The End of Depeche Mode" immediately. This worked
however very stimulating and Martin decided to take over the song writing
from then on, but they still needed someone to play synth on tour. So in
my first year with Depeche Mode, I was only an employee, only later I became
a full member. Backstage: Why do you think they choose you out of, I bet
a load of others ? Alan Wilder : At the audition almost all the people who
showed up were fans, and I think my nonchalance was greatly appreciated
by David, Andrew and Martin. Besides I could play along with them immediately.
Martin is all right, however I was kinda reserved towards their
working method. At a certain time I demanded more voice. Lucky I was considered
as a full member from then on, otherwise I would have left them after only
a few months. Backstage: From hearing, it's really hard to determine who
is playing what exactly? Alan Wilder: Oh, we don't pay attention to that
at all! It's not of any importance to us nor to the public. Because of
our line-up, without a drummer, we try to play as much as possible live.
It doesn't matter how that exactly happens. I take the real slavery on me.
I convert the multi-track drum parts to 8- track and reform the structure
of the songs completely after the recording, in a way they come over live
as well. I divide all important melodies among Martin and myself, so we
don't have
to program anything for those. Most of the time we use an E-Max Emulator.
We split the keyboard in six parts so we can play 6 sounds at one time.
So each tour asks for a lot of preparation, but once that's finished everything
works out fine. All percussion's are also triggered with the E-Max. We never
experienced any technical problems during a concert
yet, but that can always happen. Because of that we always take a backup,
because the harddisk might always go down by overheating. Most of the backup
synth parts are also prepared on tape and also for those we have a backup,
just in case...Backstage: You guys look to be committed to technology. Is
it possible to, during a show, completely change the set or
change versions of the songs ? Alan Wilder: We have an alternative set which
we play if we give more than one concert in the same place. In that 2nd
set we have a lot more room to change, experiment or make the songs much
longer if the atmosphere demands for it. Backstage: For whoever wants to
buy a new synth the marked is flooded these days, what would you advise
to someone who wants to buy a synth today ? Alan Wilder: For a lot of synths
you can say : appearances are deceptive. When you play them at first the
sounds look imposing. But after a while you find out you can't really do
a lot with them. You are stuck with a hand full of factory sounds. It's
much better to buy a good, but not to complicated analogue synth with which
you can make your own sounds. A sampler can be a good solution too. In any
way, you have to have the possibility to be creative with the sounds. For
people who don't want to play in a band immediately the fall in prices of
recording material is very interesting. In little time a home 8- track recorder
will be affordable for everyone. Backstage: What are your opinions towards
sampling ? Alan Wilder: Positive without any doubt. With a sampler you can
get sublime sounds in an easy way. Every time, before we start recording,
we spend a day or 4 to work on or add sounds to our library. Sometimes we
even go out with some mikes and a portable recorder to, for instance, record
some weird sounds at a rubbish-dump. Later in the studio we try out which
sounds match best with which songs. Within the group we experiment a lot
with samplers and I must say some sounds bring inspiration to melodies sometimes.
Sampling has in many ways something "vampire-ish". You suck up
what you need and throw the rest, the body, away. It's refreshing to hear
the Beastie Boys sample Led Zeppelin ["Rhymin & Stealin","
She's Crafty"]. A playful imitation is always the healthiest way of
copying. To conclude, the main argument against electronics is that it destroys
all emotional input. In some cases that might be so, but electronics gives
you on the other hand such liberty that you can lead your creativity into
other/better channels. The possibilities are there, and it's up to the musician
to fully use them...